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  Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal

  by OrphanCrow in

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  the supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.

  july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

  it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.

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  That is absolutely hilarious.

  But.....did I read something right? Did the attorney claim there are studies showing that JW's are truthful and that truth comes "easy to them"?

  You have got to be kidding me. I wonder where I can find these studies.
  
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  Jehovah's people are not happy people

  by Phoebe in

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  i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

  i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

  i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

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  In their defense.....A LOT of people are depressed and dealing with it medically. I would guess it might be slightly above the average, but probably not as much as we think.

  The reality is that the teaching that works its way into your mind as a JW is that you are never doing enough, even as a JW, you are not guaranteed to not be slaughtered by Jesus, and between the end of the world, and the cognitive dissonance required to be both loving to others on the outside AND be begging God to come and kill everyone in the world.....how could you possibly have a healthy view of the world, yourself, and others?

  The branch is obsessed with "keeping the friends busy". They have stated this many times. I don't know if they sincerely think being busy is the cure for this "horrific world we live in", or if the busy part is a tool of control. I suspect its a little bit of both.
  
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  Christian Times: Jehovah's Witnesses consider European court appeal after Russian Supreme Court upholds ban on sect

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.christiantimes.com/article/jehovahs-witnesses-consider-european-court-appeal-after-russian-supreme-court-upholds-ban-on-sect/72529.htm.

  july 19, 2017the jehovah's witnesses expressed its plans to appeal to the european court of human rights in strasbourg after the russian supreme court upheld a ruling that banned the sect and declared it as an "extremist" organization.

  "we plan to appeal this at the european court of human rights as soon as we can.

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  ......for more press. They forgot to add they plan to appeal to get the word out and receive more empathy from other nations, particularly where they might be under investigation, or perhaps having their charitable status up for consideration.

  Russia could seriously care less about the European court of human rights.
  
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  An infographic I just created...

  by HappyHappyHappy1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey everyone.

  i don't post here often, but i lurk pretty much everyday.

  i just created the following infographic based on the recent yearbook stats.

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  Hmmmm. I can see that. But publishers (baptized or soon to be baptized), seems to be the only real hallmark of actual members. I'm not thinking you did anything wrong by the way......just commenting. But it certainly seems like AVG publishers is the real way to measure things. We all know, you only really count if you are out in the ministry. :)
  
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  An infographic I just created...

  by HappyHappyHappy1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey everyone.

  i don't post here often, but i lurk pretty much everyday.

  i just created the following infographic based on the recent yearbook stats.

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  Great job happy. Me like.

  With the 264K baptized, is it possible to extrapolate from what they give us, the amount of JW's that were DF'd, died, or simply walked away and don't report?

  My thought is the best way to do that is the "avg publishers" from each year.

  2016 - 8,132,358

  2015 - 7,987,279

  The difference is 145,079. This is their "net gain".
  

  If 264,535 were baptized, that means 119,456 are in the left, DF'd, or died category more or less.

  They have to be shitting bricks over this right? Just glancing over the last several service reports, this is sort of the recent trend. The loose almost as much as they gain.

  So now its more like .82% growth as net (someone check my math).

  Worldwide population growth is currently at 1.11% per year.

  So they aren't even keeping up with normal population growth.

  What wonderful expansion is now taking place!
  
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  Russell's Pyramidology Originated In Edinburgh Scotland

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .

  the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).

  smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.

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  Orphancrow, I think the spin is usually along the lines of that was the old Russelite/Bible Students/didn't make the adjustment to JW's group......not real JW's. Ugh.
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  Warning: A. Vogel (JW-run organization) treatments popping up in the US

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i've noticed a few of my local grocery stores are stocking a. vogel homeopathy products.

  a. vogel is a company ran primarily by jehovah's witnesses, the "brains" behind the operation, alfred vogel, has since died but he claimed to be one of the anointed.

  the bolle family (co-founders of the company) is a well-known, (now very wealthy) family in the netherlands and there have been significant "contributions" in the past from the company to the watchtower organization.. alfred vogel was a well-known conman, he claimed blood transfusions would change someone's personality, he claimed to have studied native american herbal healing methods... from a native american tourist photo-op actor.

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  Ugh. Homeopathy has no science based evidence to support its claims. But regardless, the Vogel claims are especially spurious. I don't know if a place that already carries that type of product would be willing to hear a letter saying the founder was a loon, because I imagine there are quite a few loon founders out there.
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  "Apostate" brother gives talk in Kingdom Hall and gets removed

  by StoneWall in

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  this guy has to have the most courage of anyone i've ever seen or balls the size of basketballs.he actually gives a good talk and has tidbits scattered about throughout his public talk with hints,suggestions,innuendos of the wt organization.i never want to go in another kingdom hall again in my life but would have made an exception just to be in this audience.

  lolnotice what's going on in the audience when they realize somethings up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqqt0y1peuu.

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  I mean he was already kicked out......he had nothing to lose. Glad he took advantage of it. I don't know why I can't get out of my head the reaming that the poor elder who called him to give the talk probably got. I am sure he was stripped of his dignity and made to feel like a conduit for Satans influence.

  Poor guy.
  
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  A Poll Regarding Shunning

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've created a poll here: https://goo.gl/7xburo.

  i'd be interested in seeing the results.. .

  #qp_main1119848 .qp_btna:hover input {background:#00355f!important} #qp_all1119848 {max-width:815px; margin:0 auto;}if watchtower scrapped the shunning policy due to "new light" and your family suddenly agreed to speak to you again would you accept them back?.

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  Yes. They are captive to a concept, and the only way to have any hope at freeing them is to be able to speak to them and hopefully find the right time to introduce sanity.
  
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  why jw's commit suicide?

  by notalone in

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  we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.

  my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.

  i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.

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  I think Steve and JWfacts nailed it. We don't really "all know that suicide rate among JW's is high". We suspect it might be compared to the general population of the individual countries they are active in. But we don't really know. It might be the same as the normal population (which is what I suspect), but because of the small community word travels fast.

  Also, I don't believe they actively or subliminally encourage suicide. That would be folly when you are already hemorrhaging members to the tune of 60-80K a year.

  But feeling like you are not good enough, that the entire world will be destroyed.......these things can't help.